JOB 38
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Elihu had finished his speech to Job and his 3 friends, emphasising God's righteousness...

The 38th chapter of Job echoes Pslm 148, that the heavens and the earth praise Yahweh. *

1 Then Yahweh answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

Whirlwind (symbol of divine power)



4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

The geological structure - core, mantle, crust, lithosphere, tectonic plates - ocean basins. Landscapes, mountain ranges, hills valleys, rivers. and streams, sweet atmosphere.

Where was man, where was Job when these mighty physical forces were at work fashioning the planet, and making it a fit habitation for man through successive dispensations and catastrophes. When he balanced and measured and configured its layout with relation to Israel (Deut. 32.8).

No chance, no just happened, no mere combination of undirected matter in motion. Declare if thou hast understanding. 

Boffins analyse and scrutinize, but their godless theories are the arrogant, blasphemous speculations of the flesh. *



6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened [set]? or who laid the corner stone [even-pinnah] thereof;

7 When the morning stars [kokhvei boker] sang together, and all the sons of Elohim [Bnei Elohim] shouted for joy?

This was the commencement of the present cosmos regarding this dispensation with the earth, already formed but in bohu and tohu (Gen. 1.2).

Where was Job?

But the dawn of a milleniel seventh day will be a greater rejoicing. *



This inquiry teaches, that before the earth was fitted up Mosaically, or as Moses has described in Genesis; the Supreme Power existed in multitudinous manifestation. The plurality was composed of intelligences styled "Stars of the Morning" and "Sons of Elohim" the former kokvai voker, and the latter benai Elohim.

In Rev. 22: 16, the glorified Jesus is styled "the bright and morning Star." The enquiry put to Job showed that there were many such before Adam was created, and that these stars are sons of Elohim, even as Jesus is Son of Eloahh.

The word bain, signifies a son, from banah, to build. A son is the thing built. The Stars of Morning Light were things built and made resplendent by Ail, whose spirit formed and illuminated them. His Spirit was their atomic nucleus, the organic principle that made them what they are. As intelligences created and made, they were "Sons of" or benai; and the Spirit of Ail, the Great Paternal Power, became Eloahh to each of them, and so constituting each of them bain eloahh, a Son of Power, and all of them collectively benai Elohim, Sons of Power, -- the One Spirit of the Supreme paternal Power multitudinously organised.

Our proposition then, is that Moses and the Prophets teach, that there was One Primary Creating Power and a multitude of Secondary Powers, as intimately connected with and dependent on the First, as ten or a hundred are upon number one; and that this multiplication of the One Power in the relation of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, was in existence before the Mosaic Creation...

...The Supreme Power has not only a Son, but a multitude of sons, and all of them partaking of His nature, or spirit-substance, hypostasis. The Supreme Power, or Ail, is "the Godhead," or source, fountain, or sole spring of Power.

Moses and the prophets do not teach that "there are three persons, three essences, three somethings, or three anythings, in the Godhead; and that these three distinct units, or unities, constitute only one unit or one Unity -- and that that Tri-Unity is the God of Israel." They do not teach this. This is the foolishness of the Old Man of the Flesh.

They teach the absolute oneness of the Power-Head. "Before me," as written in Isaiah 43:10, 11, "Ail" was not created, nor after me shall be: I, I shall be (anoke, anoke, Yahweh); and NONE WITHOUT ME A SAVIOUR.

Phanerosis - One Deity in Multiplicity



9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,

"Let there be light ", said the Creative Power, in its angelic instruments, and instantly the darkness was irradiated before a way had been opened for the sun's bright rays. When men visit some underground darkness in which light is desirable, they strike a match and light a lamp. The angels have facilities in this respect of which we know nothing. They can evoke light from the common elements around them, by the exercise of volition. They can cause their own bodies to glow with electric brightness, of which their Bible history furnishes many illustrations.

It was no difficulty for them to cause light before the sun -- which seems such a staggerer to some of our wise critics. They (the angels) have many ways of operating. Perhaps they so rarefied the cloud-fog that overspread the earth as to allow a dim diffusion of sunlight such as we have on a dull day, and so caused night and day to be incipiently apparent, 

"for the evening and the morning were the first day".

Whichever way they did it, they could do it, and they did it, and performed a great feat of power which was enough for one day. On the second day, they acted on the atmosphere so that the lighter aqueous vapours floated in clouds and the heavier elements were precipitated as water thus establishing a firmament which 

"divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament".

This also was an operation involving an inconceivable expenditure of power, When the immense mass of the atmosphere acted on is considered.

Law of Moses Ch 5

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10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,

Seas, oceans, clouds and waves. When the continents emerged from the waters (Gen. l: 9,10), the seas rose and fell. The great flood (Gen.6), when the bounds of the sea broke loose and swallowed up the land, wiping out all flesh.

Who controls this balance between land and sea, the sea shore, and the tides, going and returning daily, the oceans, their currents and pathways, the clouds and hydrological cycles?

Now this balance is being destroyed and God will destroy those who destroy the earth (Rev.11:18). *



33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?

There are laws of heaven that man does not even begin to comprehend, nor is he even aware of, which are entirely beyond the range of every day physics. The fact that there are laws which govern Creation and the heavens and matter and energy show itself that there is a lawgiver, a Creator, a great mathematician, since mathematics is the rule of Heaven and earth, from the smallest bacterium or virus to the most distant galaxy. 

From DNA to solar energy, from the speed of light to the blink of an eye. DNA itself confutes evolution since it is a computer code system which must have intelligence behind it (the first law of Information Science). *

* Bro Richard Lister



41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto El, they wander for lack of meat.

The lion and the raven. God provides for these creatures both entirely different in their needs and demands, to survive, and in their usefulness in the economy and balance of nature. The wonderful harmony of God's wonderful creation which we take for granted at our peril, and which is blasphemy to do so.

"For thy pleasure they were and are created." (Rev 4.11).

Look to the hills, from whence cometh my help. My help cometh from Yahweh which made heaven and earth.

Could Job provide for the lions and the ravens in the natural order? No. The complexity of the ecosystems involved were completely outside and beyond man's remit. The lion, king of beasts roaring and rending its prey.

Armageddon is a battle of lions (Judah's lion, Assyrian lion, Tarshish lion). The ravens will clean up the rotting bodies left from the terrible war to end all wars rending and tearing (Ezk.38t Pslm.79.2,3t EZk.39. 12,13).

Bro Richard Lister -

The Apocalyptic Messenger, Nov 2016

thomas.lister1@btinternet.com